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基本问题2--功率放大器和扬声器在功率上的搭配  发帖心情 Post By:2008-7-8 8:11:40 [显示全部帖子]

这个题目其实是太大了.

先限定一个本题的范围吧.

是消费性电子产品类的功率放大器.
比如TV,PC音箱,收录机,IPOT等使用的情况.

专业音频设备不在本题讨论.
HI-FI和AV系统虽然在原则上是同一原理所指导,但是也不在本题讨论的范围内.

手机所配的放声也不纳入本题.

请大家理解.

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为问题清晰明白无误,用实际数字举例.

一个扬声器单元,其额定最大噪声功率为8瓦,
应该选用多大功率的放大器呢?就是说要选用多大瓦数的功放块呢?

请注意,一般在功放块的供应商那一边,
指标上的输出功率一般是按THD谐波失真系数来表明的.
比如一个标示为8瓦的功放块,其指标可能是:
正弦信号,1000HZ,8瓦输出时,THD不大于10%.
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  发帖心情 Post By:2008-7-8 8:25:22 [显示全部帖子]

我个人先说一个观点:

回答不是唯一的.

即便是针对TV而言,也不是唯一的.

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本帖是希望有搭配经验的工程技术人员
积极参与讨论啊.

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谢谢ZY的发言.

这个帖子不如基本问题1那么热啊?

我在想:.........

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以下是引用ZY在2008-07-09 08:58:48的发言:

这个应是整机厂的电子工程师首先考虑的问题,但坛子里此类人员可能较少。

[此贴子已经被作者于2008-07-09 08:59:29编辑过]

其实这是个关系重大的关键问题啊.

谢谢ZY对这一问题的关心.


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以下是引用digital在2008-07-09 16:26:35的发言:
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Thank you very much.

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Properly matching loudspeakers
and power amplifiers
By Keith Clark
PSW Editorial Director
 

1 2

 

One of the questions most commonly asked of loudspeaker manufacturers

concerns the matching of power amplifiers to loudspeakers.

Manufacturers will tell you that the majority of loudspeaker failures

encountered by their service department are the result of improper

power matching. It might seem logical to use a smaller amplifier as a

safety measure; after all, it stands to reason that there won't be

enough power to damage the loudspeaker.

Yet they see many more loudspeaker failures due to under powering than

any other cause. When the amplifier exceeds its maximum voltage

capability, it can "clip" the peaks off the electrical signal it is

supplying.

Once the amplifier starts clipping, the average (or RMS) level rises,

which can be extremely damaging to the loudspeaker. In layman's terms,

for example, your 200-watt amplifier can approach delivery of 800 watts

of power, but it will be volatile and heavily distorted, and thus

potentially quite harmful to the loudspeaker.

However, using an amplifier that is much more powerful than the

loudspeaker's rating can do just as much damage. Supplying the speaker

with more power than it can handle will often result in thermal (heat)

and/or mechanical damage.

Basically, any amplifier with a 20Hz - 20kHz power rating that matches

other specifications of a given loudspeaker will safely drive that

speaker at full output under most conditions. Therefore it's vital to

understand the meaning and impact of the most important loudspeaker

specifications as they relate to amplifiers.

First, there's power handling capacity, usually defined by terms such

as "Continuous," "Program" and "Peak". Continuous is the level of long

-term average power accepted by the loudspeaker; Program is based upon

a test signal that simulates a "real-world" program signal; and Peak

refers to the maximum amount of short-term power the loudspeaker will

handle.

Based on these terms, then, what is the proper amplifier choice to

capably and safely drive a loudspeaker rated at 100 watts continuous,

220 watts program, and 400 watts peak? The best choice would be an

amplifier delivering about 200 (continuous) watts per channel. Plenty

of power for normal full-range operation while also capable of meeting

short-term peak demands without going into clip.


 
 
 
 

 
  It should be noted that although an amplifier delivering 200 watts

per channel is appropriate for use with a full-range loudspeaker rated

at 220 watts program, subwoofer enclosures tend to require a bit more

power to generate their lower frequencies. In other words, a single

mono subwoofer rated at 200 watts should be paired with an amp offering

absolutely no less than 200 watts.

In fact, a good rule of thumb when dealing with subwoofers is to employ

an amp rated somewhere in the vicinity of 20 percent higher than the

subwoofer. With that in mind, a 250-watt amplifier would be ideal in

this application.

Another factor to be aware of is the impedance load that the amplifier

is being required to drive. Impedance is the resistance to the flow of

the audio signal by the loudspeaker. Measured in ohms, it is usually

called "nominal impedance" by most loudspeaker manufacturers.

A mismatch in impedance between an amplifier and loudspeaker can result

in poor performance, in the form of improper frequency response and

excessive distortion. Serious damage to one or both components is also

a very real possibility.

Most professional loudspeakers are rated at either 8 ohms or 4 ohms,

although a number of power amplifiers are specified to drive loads

ranging from 16 ohms to 2 ohms. You'll notice that the lower the

impedance, the greater the amplifier power rating. More power is

required to overcome the increased resistance.

For example, a loudspeaker delivering 110 watts at 8 ohms will also

likely be specified to deliver about 150 watts at 4 ohms. Consider our

prior discussion of power handling, and you quickly see why its

important to note a loudspeaker's impedance specification in the

matching process.

It's usually best to avoid 2-ohm operation, which can unnecessarily

stress an amplifier, and also can require much larger (heavier gauge)

cable to effectively and safely transport the load.

And speaking of cable, why go to all of the trouble of properly

matching loudspeakers and amplifiers if the link between them is

subpar? Most manufacturers recommend using heavy gauge (#14-#10),

professionally manufactured cable in all applications. A good rule of

thumb is the heavier the cable, the more efficient it will be as a

conduit between the devices.

(Thanks to the gang at EAW for their input on this topic.)


 


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Speaker / Amplifier matching
by: good-hifi( 3742Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) Top 25 Reviewer
203 out of 219 people found this guide helpful.
Guide viewed: 4568 times Tags: amplifier power | rms pmpo | loudspeaker | speaker volume | watts loudness

A common misconception is that the rated power of loudspeakers is a measurement of how loud they are and an amplifier has to have the same power output as the rated power of the loudspeakers it is used with. This is a very brief summary which dispels this misconception
 
To put this into some kind of useful information. I have driven loudspeakers rated at 300 watts with valve amplifiers that have an output of 20 watts per channel. The amplifiers drove the loudspeakers with consummate ease. The loudspeakers were what is called 'efficient' and the amplifier did not struggle. Similarly I have driven loudspeakers of which the rated power closely matched that of the amplifiers input and the amplifier struggled, these loudspeakers were what is classed as inefficient.
 
'Efficiency' is determined by sound output for a given input and is usually measured in decibels at one metre for an input of one watt. A good efficiency is usually about 90 dB, highly efficient loudspeakers may go as high as 102 dB and the lower scale efficiency might be 82 dB.
So, the lower the efficiency of the speaker the higher the power of the amplifier would need to be to drive it well.
 
One very important point to note is that a low power amplifier driving low efficiency speakers is not a good idea. It is often distortion caused by having the amplifier turned up too high which damages loudspeakers and this happens far more often than damage cause by too powerful an amplifier. If you find you are using the amplifier in excess of two thirds volume, or you often hear distortion, then the amplifier is probably not powerful enough for your speakers. (or you are deaf!)
 
The best thing to do is to try to match the amplifier with the speakers such that most of your listening is carried out with the amplifier at half volume. This ensures it is delivering enough power to hear the full frequency range clearly with a bit of power left for transient or fast notes and enough oomph left for good bass response.
 
This is all a bit of a science on it's own and my best advice is, if you really need to know more, to search Google for websites dedicated to loudspeakers, loudspeaker design and loudspeaker efficiency.
 
If the seller of the loudspeakers, or amplifier, appears to be a regular HiFi seller you should be able to get some useful information from them but don't except them to know all about your amplifier or speakers so if you want some good information you will have to give the specifications of the items you intend to partner.
 
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Acoustics / Audio
July 2000
Basics of Loudspeaker Design & Technology (Part II)
By Jon Sager

One of the questions most commonly asked of loudspeaker manufacturers concerns matching power amplifiers to loudspeakers. We've found that the majority of loudspeaker failures encountered by our service department are the result of improper power matching.

It might seem logical to use a smaller amplifier as a safety measure; after all, it stands to reason that there won't be enough power to damage the loudspeaker. Yet we see many more loudspeaker failures due to under powering than any other cause. When the amplifier exceeds its maximum voltage capability, it can "clip" the peaks off the electrical signal it is supplying.

Once the amplifier starts clipping, the average (or RMS) level rises, which can be extremely damaging to the loudspeaker. In layman's terms, for example, your 200-watt amplifier can approach delivery of 800 watts of power, but it will be volatile and heavily distorted, and thus potentially quite harmful to the loudspeaker.
However, using an amplifier that is much more powerful than the loudspeaker's rating can do just as much damage. Supplying the speaker with more power than it can handle will often result in thermal (heat) and/or mechanical damage.

Basically, any amplifier with a 20Hz - 20kHz power rating that matches other specifications of a given loudspeaker will safely drive that speaker at full output under most conditions. Therefore it's vital to understand the meaning and impact of the most important loudspeaker specifications as they relate to amplifiers.

First, there's power handling capacity, usually defined by terms such as "Continuous," "Program" and "Peak". Continuous is the level of long-term average power accepted by the loudspeaker; Program is based upon a test signal that simulates a "real-world" program signal; and Peak refers to the maximum amount of short-term power the loudspeaker will handle.

Based on these terms, then, what is the proper amplifier choice to capably and safely drive a loudspeaker rated at 100 watts continuous, 220 watts program, and 400 watts peak? The best choice would be an amplifier delivering about 200 (continuous) watts per channel. Plenty of power for normal full-range operation while also capable of meeting short-term peak demands without going into clip.

It should be noted that although an amplifier delivering 200 watts per channel is appropriate for use with a full-range loudspeaker rated at 220 watts program, subwoofer enclosures tend to require a bit more power to generate their lower frequencies. In other words, a single mono subwoofer rated at 200 watts should be paired with an amp offering absolutely no less than 200 watts. In fact, a good rule of thumb when dealing with subwoofers is to employ an amp rated somewhere in the vicinity of 20 percent higher than the subwoofer. With that in mind, a 250-watt amplifier would be ideal in this application.

Another factor to be aware of is the impedance load that the amplifier is being required to drive. Impedance is the resistance to the flow of the audio signal by the loudspeaker. Measured in ohms, it is usually called "nominal impedance" by most loudspeaker manufacturers.

A mismatch in impedance between an amplifier and loudspeaker can result in poor performance, in the form of improper frequency response and excessive distortion. Serious damage to one or both components is also a very real possibility.

Most professional loudspeakers are rated at either 8 ohms or 4 ohms, although a number of power amplifiers are specified to drive loads ranging from 16 ohms to 2 ohms.

You'll notice that the lower the impedance, the greater the amplifier power rating. More power is required to overcome the increased resistance. For example, a loudspeaker delivering 110 watts at 8 ohms will also likely be specified to deliver about 150 watts at 4 ohms. Consider our prior discussion of power handling, and you quickly see why its important to note a loudspeaker's impedance specification in the matching process.
It's usually best to avoid 2-ohm operation, which can unnecessarily stress an amplifier, and also can require much larger (heavier gauge) cable to effectively and safely transport the load.

And speaking of cable, why go to all of the trouble of properly matching loudspeakers and amplifiers if the link between them is subpar? We recommend using heavy gauge (#14-#10), professionally manufactured cable in all applications. A good rule of thumb is the heavier the cable, the more efficient it will be as a conduit between the devices.

To learn more about the issue of power handling, EAW offers an application note entitled "Understanding Loudspeaker Power Handling and Selecting the Proper Power Amplifier." To obtain a free copy, contact us at 800/992-5013. ·


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